Why Is Everyone So Down On The Rule Of Law?

Arnold Kling earns a rare (for him) RWCG Demerit™ for writing in favor of “principles-based regulation”, or as I like to term it, Yglesiocracy. What is ‘principles-based regulation’, or PBR as they superfluously acronymize it? (Note to self, idea for new Sonic’s razor: anything for which its proponents have decided to try to push a superfluous acronym, is probably a bad idea). Kling explains:

With PBR, legislation would lay out broad but well-defined principles that businesses are expected to follow. Administrative agencies would audit businesses to identify strengths and weaknesses in their systems for applying those principles, and they would punish weaknesses by imposing fines.

Kling does not go on to explain whether the size of those fines are set according to (gasp) rules, or rather just described via ‘principles’, leaving regulators wide leeway to make up whatever-size fines they want. But you get the idea: in short, Kling is arguing against the rule of law, whose importance he dismisses.

In principle, the advantage of traditional rules-based regulation is that the regulated entity knows exactly what is legal and what is not.

You might naively assume that it’d be a good thing if citizens can know exactly what is legal and what is not as they go about their daily affairs and then kiss their children good-night. But you’d be wrong: some of them should be sometimes randomly fined and/or thrown in jail, according to Kling’s preferred setup, the rule of regulators. Is what you are doing illegal? Ask the commissar, he’ll figure it out, according to ‘principles’, and then inform you. (And, tell you what fine to pay, if there is one.)

He cites three example situations where, he says, “PBR” would be better, and they are all strange. The first is a credit-card company trying to sell $59.95 credit-check service to someone with a $200 limit on the card he has with that company, which is supposedly bad because (per Kling) ‘no business should sell a consumer a product knowing that the consumer has no chance of benefiting from that product’. Leave aside the obvious jokes one could make about how many products this would apply to – really, does any person have ‘a chance of benefiting from’ a Chia Pet? Spam? Soap Opera Digest? Funyuns? etc – not to mention the service deals that places like Best Buy are always trying to hawk when you buy a stereo from them (do they push those things because they think you’ll use them or not-use them, hmm?). Because I don’t even understand the assumption in the first place. Who’s to say that consumer ‘has no chance’ of benefiting from checking their credit record. Just because their limit on that card is $200? But so? Maybe their credit will improve – maybe its being $200 is a result of a mistake and checking their credit record will help – etc. I don’t necessarily think it’s great that a card company would try to push-market this sort of thing, but you can always just say no, and if it really bothered me, I’d cancel the card and switch to some other company. Why does the consumer need ‘protection’ from anything here in the first place?

The second example is Freddie Mac making too-easy loans. Leave aside the fact that GSEs were making easy loans in part due to pressure from the government itself (thus, the idea of this problem requiring a government solution is rather ironic). Kling says this violated a principle he’d set out as, ‘any financial institution that enjoys a government guarantee has a responsibility to behave prudently’. Oh, okay then! Just behave ‘prudently’! I don’t even know what this can possibly mean in practice. Quick, JP Morgan wants to sell $Xmm IG9 10y protection; is that ‘prudent’? Can/should they do it? Says who? How/when shall they know? What about $Ymm? What about buying protection? What are the allowable ‘prudent’ positions in IG9 10y they are allowed to have at any given time? Hopeless. (Later he describes a couple of English-law principles as too ‘vague’ to be of any use. Healer heal thyself.)

The third example, aimed at the MF Global case, says ‘the chief executive of a company has a fiduciary responsibility to make certain that systems are in place to protect customers’ funds’. The thing is, I’m sure that ‘systems were in place to’ protect MF Globals’ customer funds; the problem was not the lack of ‘systems’, it’s that they evidently didn’t work (or were undermined, we still don’t know, I think).

Here and elsewhere Kling seems to confuse the verifiable existence of ‘systems’, ‘checks’, etc. for the actual protection of the thing. How would this work in practice? Either one could say ‘we had systems, they just failed’, and stay clear of Kling’s principle (so what’s the point?), or we have to understand that principle to mean that you can put executives – i.e., people – in jail for events that are, literally and realistically, beyond their control. Oh what’s that you say? It’s not beyond their control? Executives can and should be understood to personally control and be criminally liable for literally all actions and events within some giant x000-person corporation, and this assumption should be written into regulations principles? Yeesh, now who’s guilty of nirvana-fallacy thinking?

There is a sense, a very trivial sense, in which ‘principles-based regulation’ is unobjectionable. Let’s take murder: surely the various laws against murder basically just say You can’t murder, they don’t bother to lay out specifically every possible conceivable way to murder someone, and then ban that act (‘…and you can’t jam a screwdriver into someone’s eye socket until it damages their brain making them dead, and you can’t…’). So you could say, I suppose, that ‘don’t murder’ is the ‘principle’ that is, then, enforced by prosecutors, judges, and juries sussing out in their minds whether you violated that principle. An analogous example suggests itself in business: don’t commit fraud. ‘Fraud’, in the various laws, is probably indeed described in a ‘broad but well-defined way’ that has to be applied to any given case.

Sure, I’d have no problem with ‘principles-based regulation’ if that’s all it means. But that works in part because the ‘principles’ in question are themselves so well-defined that there is broad background societal and historical agreement about what they mean; they rise above ‘principles’ and connote specific acts that are reasonably well-understood by all in advance. When and where that can be done in financial and other regulation, then okay. ‘Fraud’ appears to be one such example. But to try to expand this to vague ‘principles’ like ‘be prudent’ doesn’t work. And there are cases where we want to regulate things that simply don’t lend themselves to being cast in the form of a principle; quick, how would you state the ‘principle’ behind regulator-enforced capital requirements? ‘Have enough capital’?

I would suggest there are some issues you need to either state in the form of a number, or be silent on. For better or worse, our Congress and regulators take it upon themselves to regulate many issues of this type. Trying to phrase such regulations as ‘principles’ only succeeds in making them vague. But vague laws defy the rule of law. Why is everyone so down on the rule of law?

19 Responses to Why Is Everyone So Down On The Rule Of Law?

  1. stephen says:

    I have been awaiting your comment on his post…now I shall read it.

  2. robert61 says:

    PBR, the cheap, low-quality beer that hipsters mysteriously love of approaches to legislation.

  3. Steve says:

    Just supposing here, but the rule of regulators might seem more appealing than the rule of law to certain people if the regulators work for a guy with (D) after his name, but the legislature is full of (R)s.

  4. It struck me reading this post and Kling’s original that the difference between Pabst Blue Ribbon-sorry, I meant principles based regulation-and rule based regulation is analogous to the difference between negligence and strict liability standards The analogy is not exact, but the analogy is close with respect to informational requirements and the discretion given to the trier of fact.

    The law & econ literature shows that the optimality of strict liability, or negligence, or some combination thereof, depends on the nature of the tort. Rather than categorically rejecting PBR, it would be worthwhile to utilize something analogous to the law & econ literature’s analysis of negligence vs. strict liability to determine the circumstances under which PBR is preferable, and when it isn’t.

    • That sounds to be a likely-promising avenue, albeit well outside my area of expertise (even more so than usual :) ). In context one assumes Kling is mostly advocating PBR in the area of financial regulations. This actually brings him in alignment with the Posner/Weyl concept of a ‘financial FDA’ that would have to declare financial products ‘safe’, etc.

      I am open to the idea that best regulation would be some ‘mixture’ of principles/rules (indeed I’m sure that’s what we have already) in some context, however my concern (as usual) is that in the particular case of finance we lean too far in the direction of ‘principles’ already, and that the new regs everyone is so keen to pile on are making errors in the same direction of what we already have.

      I imagine Kling, like a lot of folks, is mostly speaking out of frustration that the Volcker Rule approach got ‘watered down’, or whatever, via translating it into a rule. And I would be the first to agree that turning it into a rule has been a disaster. But that doesn’t mean they should have just kept it as a ‘principle’; the principle itself is wrong and incorrect. This goes along with a comment I left on Kling’s post, loosely: if you can’t state your regulation as a clear rule, it might be because the principle behind it was dumb.

      I also asked him what he thinks a ‘principles-based’ capital requirement regime would be, will see if he responds…

  5. Anon. says:

    “Healer heal thyself”…that would be “physician heal thyself”.
    Not to be pedantic or anything. Just saying.

    • I’ve missed you Anon.

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  7. asdf says:

    Q: “Why Is Everyone So Down On The Rule Of Law?”

    A: The “law” is written by rich, powerful, connected insiders via lobbying which allows them to fill it with loopholes that make it easy to violate the spirit of the law while remaining technically legal.

    Most of my time in IB and insurance involved:
    “Well, this is a ripoff and regulation X is supposed to stop it, but there is a loophole and we are going to exploit it.”

    When the inevitable blowup happens, rather then throwing these people in jail they simply hide behind the letter of the law, keep their bonuses, and run off to the next company to run some new scam.

    “Who’s to say that consumer ‘has no chance’ of benefiting from checking their credit record. Just because their limit on that card is $200? But so? Maybe their credit will improve – maybe its being $200 is a result of a mistake and checking their credit record will help – etc. I don’t necessarily think it’s great that a card company would try to push-market this sort of thing, but you can always just say no, and if it really bothered me, I’d cancel the card and switch to some other company. Why does the consumer need ‘protection’ from anything here in the first place?”

    It probably won’t improve. They are probably a dumb hick with a sub 100 IQ that isn’t capable of understanding his options very well and are easy to sell. Eve if that’s false there are lots of cheaper alternatives to fix that. We know that’s true because entire industries exist to exploit these people and they are very profitable. It’s not a theory, it’s the real world.

    It’s a net benefit to society to just say no. More people benefit that lose from such a policy.

    The reason financial services are different from chia pets is its easy to understand whether a financial product is good for someone and hard to understand if a chia pet is good. Chia pets are subject to a wildly varying utility value from person to person. Money is money. Everyone wants more of it. A financial product that returns 30 cents on the dollar while doing virtually nothing else is a bad product. Full stop. End of story.

    “But that works in part because the ‘principles’ in question are themselves so well-defined that there is broad background societal and historical agreement about what they mean; they rise above ‘principles’ and connote specific acts that are reasonably well-understood by all in advance.”

    We can do that. Ayn Rand wierdos like you won’t let it happen, because you can’t even agree that a $60 charge on a $200 credit limit falls into that category. You go into fraud, but any attempt to prosecute the massive fraud in the housing mess and you throw a cannip.

    • Haha, ‘Ayn Rand weirdo’ – I love it! (I don’t believe I’ve ever mentioned Ayn Rand, at least not in any positive way, on this blog. And that’s saying something, cuz I’ve written a LOT of cr@p about a LOT of stuff)

      Some points

      1. If you’re sincere about disdaining the rule of law because you think it’s written by/for the rich, you have things bass-ackwards. Say you’re right that the law is written by/for the rich; well that’s a complaint about not enough rule of law, and you should be seeking more not less. What on earth do you think the effect of ‘principles-based regulation’ would be on the rich/privileged of the Washington DC area? What about the lawyers/judges who apply the ‘principles’? What about the corporate staff lawyers tasked with divining how to stay on the right side of the ‘principles’? Will making laws more vague and elite-constructed somehow help make such people less rich/privileged?

      2. The credit-check-service case is such a dumb, idiosyncratic example that it’s a bit silly to pursue it further. But suffice to say that with your broader point re: ‘net benefit to society to just say no’, I would wonder how consistently you would apply that. Forget about Chia Pets, what about the example I gave of service contracts that Best Buy or Circuit City tries to sell you when you buy a junky stereo that will be obsolete in 9 months? Shall those be banned (‘net benefit to just say no’)? If not why not? The exact same logic seems to apply. How about a cell-phone plan that covers way more minutes, or international calls, then a person will ever use. For that matter, what about the health insurance I am forced to buy that covers birth-control-pills. I guarantee you I will never use that, why isn’t that disallowed according to the same principle? I could go on, but the point is, this sort of paternalism collapses if you examine it too closely/logically. Possibly because it’s not being advocated out of principle, it’s being advocated by people who have started from the (understandable, but misguided) idea that Finance Needs To Be Regulated More and then worked backwards from there, to cook up a way to achieve that end, while trying to make it look like it came from a principle.

      3. Re: prosecuting massive fraud in the housing mess, I am all for it! Start with the large number of borrowers who lied on their loan documents to get loans on better terms than they otherwise would have gotten (or, that they wouldn’t have gotten at all), to buy more house than they could afford. Prosecute ‘em I say. And yes, any brokers who helped/guided/coaxed them to do it, appraisers who fudged inflated appraisals, etc. Or is that not what you’re talking about? What then? ‘Prosecute the massive fraud’ is a useless point to make if you’re not willing to go into specifics; do you want to talk specifically about the Abacus deal? If you really want to have all these conversations we can, but you will have to do better than just waving your hands and complaining about ‘massive fraud’ (by whom? against whom? doing what specifically?).

      4. Your experience of IB/insurance that it involved looking for ways to arb the letter of regulations is a fair point. The question is whether this is a problem, if so why, and what sort of problem is it, and what do we want to do about it. I totally understand that if you (like Aretae) start from the premise that the ‘regulation’ was presumptively a good idea, and ignore the possibility that it wasn’t, then it automatically follows that these attempts to route around the ‘spirit’ of the regulation are bad, and since they are inevitable, the game-theory logic suggests an alternative approach is needed. It’s not like I don’t get all that. The point I would like to make is that many of these cases where a regulation is being arbed in this way, are cases where the regulation was arbitrary and pointless anyway.

      Let me give you a concrete example: capital requirements that give miniscule risk weights to “AAA” securities. This obviously was a big part of the incentive to construct synthetic “AAA” securities out of lesser securities. A disproportionately-high of those synthetic “AAA” securities have since failed, leading to higher losses than “AAA” investors were meant to expect. So, clearly something went wrong. The question is what. I can see and understand two reactions. The first is the common one:

      1) Constructing phony “AAA” securities violated the spirit of the risk-weight approach, which was based in a good-faith way on the integrity of rating-agency ratings. Even though it was within the letter of the law, a ‘principles-based’ approach to regulation might have caught it.

      What I would like for people to try to think about, though, is a different reaction:

      2) The fact that risk-weightings are arb’able in this way is like a symptom of a disease, it tells us something important: ‘ratings’ are not sacrosanct and they are not reliable, or even self-consistent, guides to risk. Hmm. Maybe it’s not such a good idea to base capital requirements on them?

      You tell me. Is there any merit to #2 at all? But #2 would suggest neither having a ‘principle-based’ approach to that issue, nor a ‘rule-based’ approach; it suggests, if anything, having no such rule in the first place. If you start from the premise that all existing rules/regulations are good and need to have their ‘spirit’ respected, then you never get to this question.

      Best,

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  9. asdf says:

    A partial reply is over at Aretea’s blog but focuses on his post. I reject the non-regulatory aguement because regulation is a proven political economy equilibrium. It will happen. Therefore, it can either be good or bad.

    1) Giving a regulator more authority and decisionmaking power will be good or bad based on the regulator. If we compensate and respect regulators well, like Singapore, we will get good regulation. If we still ask them to do their jobs but treat them like the scum of the earth and give them no resources, we will get bad regulation. Authority will magnify this either way. Your solution, give up on good regulation and try to minimize regulator authority, didn’t work.

    2) Maybe service plans should be banned. I’d have to take it case by case. And since having a regulator approve everything beforehand can often be logistically impossible, having a principals based approach to go after people after the fact makes sense. People know right and wrong, it’s not hard.

    3) Yes, I would prosecute them all. A lot of people all over the spectrum should be in jail.

    4) See first paragraph.

    I start from the premise that:

    1) We live in a democracy.
    and
    2) Policy ideas don’t matter if there is no political economy equilibrium for them.

    Therefore, financial regulations are a given. We can either try to do them right or not.

    • ‘Regulation will happen’ is a red herring. Yes it will happen, I am not saying otherwise, and nowhere did I advocate to ‘give up on good regulation’.

      I don’t subscribe to your good-regulator theory of regulation (i.e. that regulations are good when regulators are good, and vice versa). Again, this is just a basic principle of the rule of law rather than rule of man; in particular it’s (theoretically) an American founding principle.

  10. Matt says:

    “Sure, I’d have no problem with ‘principles-based regulation’ if that’s all it means. But that works in part because the ‘principles’ in question are themselves so well-defined that there is broad background societal and historical agreement about what they mean; they rise above ‘principles’ and connote specific acts that are reasonably well-understood by all in advance.”

    Well, that’s the problem, isn’t it? Principles like fraud (and even murder–Justice for Trayvon!) aren’t really well understood at all. Hence, no one can agree on what exactly constituted fraud during the housing crisis or what should be punished. And of course, there is such a thing as the spirit of the law.

    Take something like cash on car titles, those places that exist in poor neighborhoods everywhere. I’ve seen these defended on the grounds that a poor person considers the tradeoff worthwhile, therefore he makes the bargain. However, those places really only exist to rip people off, and as an objective matter, the tradeoff is never worth it because it is designed to not be worth it. Is it fraud though? The terms were laid out clearly from the beginning.

    Like asdf says, some people are simply not smart or savvy enough to make these sorts of calculations, so what do you do with them?

    • All I can say is that it strikes me as a gross exaggeration to say that murder isn’t well understood/agreed because of boundary/politicized cases such as the Trayvon Martin case.

      On the question of poor/dumb people getting ripped off and what-do-you-do-with-them, two points. 1) I don’t such cases are the focus of most financial regulation. 2) I see no evidence that regulators know-what-to-do-with-them in a sense that makes me long to give regulators even more power….maybe you do, if so, what/where?

      • Matt says:

        I almost inserted a line at the end pointing out that I don’t trust the American government to assume more power of any kind, which renders this whole discussion moot, but I wanted to keep it more abstract than that. But you raised the point so I should register my agreement.

        On murder, it’s more than just borderline cases. Is abortion murder? Is a case of stand your ground murder? Euthanasia? Stem cell research? Execution? In some sense they are all borderline, in that they are currently controversial, but they cover a decent proportion of cases where one person kills another.

        Our society lacks broad-based agreement on even the big principles. Like you, I don’t think this is an argument for giving some mass of regulators power to enforce their predispositions, but it is a problem that America must and will solve in some manner.

  11. asdf says:

    The “rule of law” is made up by men. Rule of bad laws made up by bad men isn’t a good outcome. “The law” isn’t some otherworldly force, it’s a political equilibrium. By “rule of law” I think you mean some independent judiciary (“unaccountable beauracrats”) are capable of overturning slight majorities of voters whims based on previous slight majorities of voter whims.

    • Rule of bad laws made up by bad men isn’t a good outcome.

      I guess I agree. How would PBR avoid this? Oh right by ensuring that all the regulators are Good Men, via mechanism _____.

      “The law” isn’t some otherworldly force, it’s a political equilibrium.

      You sure like the word equilibrium. Anyway I agree ‘the law’ isn’t some otherworldly force. Nor is such a notion behind the concept of the ‘rule of law’ in the first place. In fact, ‘rule of law’ is, itself, just a principle, a guide to aim towards. I happen to think it’s a good one; I guess you (and Arnold Kling) disagree. Neither your nor his comments have made it evident why though.

  12. asdf says:

    Relying on regulators, flawed as they may be, is better then relying on congress (aka democracy). A regulator can be selfish or flawed (like a congressmen), but at least he’s a professional with some education and data that feels some ownership of the situation. A congressmen (which is just a collection of voters) feels none of these, because voters don’t feel any ownership for their decisions and have little expertise with which to render judgement.

    The public policy marketplace isn’t like the marketplace for consumers. Whereas consumers may indeed add immesurable information to the marketplace through their actions, voters often subtract wisdom from the public policy marketplace. Because voters are buying the feeling/experience of voting/supporting a candidate, they are not actually buying public policy. A regulator is buying public policy, they have some skin in the game.

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